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« on: March 05, 2005, 05:52:19 AM »

I posted this on this side of the fence in hopes of getting back some responses that are straight from the hip and with some grit in it. As we all know NASCAR has made some changes that are pretty over the top this season. At least I think they are Also I believe some of them to be a big mistake, In my opinion at this point in NASCAR’s history, the monkey has the keys to the cage and he’s letting all the animals free. As light hearted as I will try to be I am not going to pull any punches this is simply my opinion and all I ask is yours in return.
1)   Impounding cars after qualifying: Even though there is a limited amount of this where it happens is gonna suck. It sucks for the fans AKA ”paddock passes anyone?” I think not. The tracks that I’ve been to have what I think is called foot traffic, who in the blue moon is going to spend any money on Sunday around what was once a busy and fund generating activity. With the impound rule comes a lot of teams that suffer from the lack of extra work time. I call it extra due to the fact that some teams needed that Sunday morning more than others and it all is a washed away now. Foolish NASCAR, you shot the horse you were riding. For all the fans that truly love racing the way that I do boy are we gonna miss (like good ol’ California proved) the race day coverage of what teams were doing and what went on. It’s all gone at these tracks, note sharing, people doing what they get their check for. “Thinking” It’s all gone the race it self is gone and trashed. I’m sure NASCAR (the track owners lets face it) made puppets out of any track managers on this one that are part of the big France dance. It will be a sad day when there are tracks that are faced with either going along with the “plan” or have their race moved. If NASCAR ever tries to use this stupid rule as a sticking point I’ll quit. Foolish NASCAR, you ruined race day. Nobody is a fan of Saturday, Saturday does not generate any money. You killed the interest that was a thing called “news”. News sells newspapers. Tune in to watch a race and we hear this:  this morning teams, well okay uhm……Junk.
2)   Racing in Mexico: There is nothing there for us. There is not enough cookies to go around in the states let alone a modern day bandito state of affairs in which teams must convoy to “stay safe”. A country that does not observe the same industrial safety and hazardous waste protocol that the United States does. Some of these practices are reasons such items as Levis Jeans are made there. Not to mention wages, which brings to mind the ticket prices dollars VS. peso generated. I fail to see the sense and put little stock in what some drivers and teams say because as far as I’m concerned very rarely speak their mind to the tune of truth. (See NASCAR’s political correctness rulebook)
3)   The top 35 thing there : well it bit my man at Daytona and quite frankly ruined the twins that were a highlight of speedweeks. As of now other than the races themselves and just seeing cars ripping along at a high rate of speed you get to watch Morgon S. race #109 for a fringe spot in the 500. But to honest with you I’ll admit that watching the fallout that will be teams that are lingering at the 30-35 spot and racing for the bye spots will be interesting. That it will be, interesting to see the race for the bottom 5 as well as the top ten.
There are other things to which are not to my liking but I’m a guy who lives in the past. As I recall it was nice, men were men and we went racin’. This whole scene is strating to smell funny but I’m a race fan what can I say.
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2005, 12:16:28 AM »

Michael (aka the next Hunter S. Thompson):

I think you should hire an agent and a good editor and write a book.  You are brilliant!

As for the Mexico race, aka the "Guinea Pig 200," Tony Stewart turned down a ride here for security reasons, like what you mentioned.  Michael Waltrip, who when the race was announced was the first to sign up, crossed his name off the sheet.  Was he thinking the same thing?  What about Matt Kenseth?

Certainly, the drivers aren't "out and about" on race weekends as they usually are.  Today's telecast mentioned a trip to see some ancient pyramids just outside the city, but I'm sure that it's a group trip under tight security.  As I wrote in another post, there are no motorcoaches or tailgaters near the track.  Finally, today seven teams failed to qualify.  Their haulers could not leave the track immediately, as normally happens.  They must stay until, I believe, Sunday evening, then leave with the same escorts with which they came onto the track.

I also agree with you on impounding (which is not the sweet deal I originally thought it was) and the top 35, which only seemed to come about after the qualifying of last Oct. 29 after Valvoline- and Caterpillar-sponsored cars failed to qualify and Ricky Rudd almost missed.   You bet the big sponsors seemed to be screaming for some kind of guarantee after that.
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2005, 07:15:49 PM »

My thoughts on different things are:

Top 35 - don't like it.  You need to qualify your way in.  For instance, yesterday a car went through inspection because he had to (26 guaranteed in Busch) but did not qualify and he still gets to race because he is in top 26.  Bull, imo.  

Another thing, Carl Edwards blew a motor after his switch to a back up car.  A rule I never heard of before: he gets to start where he qualified because he presented his car before he blew the motor.  What is up with this?  Did I misunderstand that?  Never heard that before.  Robbie has to go to the back.   :?   Somebody, please explain.

Impounding - I can take that or leave it.  But different rules for different tracks just don't make sense.  They do like those rules non specific, don't they?

Racing in Mexico - mixed feelings on this.  I don't like the idea that they have to convoy and all stay at the same place.  But if they had to convoy, then why did J J Yeley have such a time at the border without a vin?  Did they keep that team there by itself?  This did not make sense if they were all going in a convoy.  I have been to Mexico 5 different times (2 just to border towns and 3 deep into the country) and never experienced anything bad.  That was quite a few years ago though.  Been to Mexico City twice and other than the taxi drivers scaring me really bad with their driving, never had anything but good experiences.  People were very gracious and easy going.  We know people who go camping down there in groups and also church groups where they take teenagers down to help build houses and centers for kids and it always seems that they come home with great stories and nothing horrific.  I am sure that like in any country, including the USA, there are many horror stories to tell and there is a lot of theft and crime sown there, but that is true everywhere.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2005, 02:50:19 AM »

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 But if they had to convoy, then why did J J Yeley have such a time at the border without a vin?.



  I believe that was his show car that had the problem.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2005, 04:17:56 PM »

Quote from: "Vivian"
Another thing, Carl Edwards blew a motor after his switch to a back up car.  A rule I never heard of before: he gets to start where he qualified because he presented his car before he blew the motor.  What is up with this?  Did I misunderstand that?  Never heard that before.  Robbie has to go to the back.   :?   Somebody, please explain.


I know this happened a few races ago in Cup and I wondered about it too, but apparently it is legal.  Here's how Mike Mulhern explains it:

Edwards was able to take advantage of a quirk in the Busch rules that allows a team to change an engine in its backup car without being penalized by having to go to the back.

The intent of the rule was to allow a team that crashed its primary car to take the engine out of its backup and run it, presuming that backup engines probably aren't as good. However, NASCAR's rules writing was vague.

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