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Title: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Desmond on October 20, 2008, 06:10:24 PM
On Friday, I surfed over to the DBSTalk forum.  It was to get the answer to another question, but while I was there I found out that Sirius may be about to take over the XM music channels.  Already, the new merged company has fired many of the music directors of the channels that were operated by XM.

When I saw all this information, I immediately thought of Cheryl's comments about XM being superior to Sirius in the presentation of the music channels.  Her biggest complaint was that the Sirius hosts talk too much.  I also understand that Sirius has a more limited playlist than XM, but I don't know if that is true.

Cheryl, have you also heard about the layoffs?  And what is your reaction?


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Cheryl on October 20, 2008, 06:23:52 PM
Oh yeah...I heard about the lay-offs early last week.

Pretty much, rather than a "merger," it's pretty clear it's become a hostile takeover of XM by Sirius...

Besides firing so many XM program directors and all, Sirius has already announced they're canning several channels in favor of their own version - one that I like a lot called America, which plays some older country music is gone after 11/4 in favor of Sirius' Roadhouse.   >:(

Here's an interesting article I saw a link to today that pretty much tells it like it is:

http://www.michiguide.com/

Go to the 3rd article down.

As to my reactions, it's pretty disappointing to see; however, I can't see the music changes being drastic enough to ever drive me back to FM.  Besides NA$CAR, the thing that really drove me to pay for XM in 2004 was the inane morning shows around here. 

Hopefully, Claire B. Lang will have a permanent place on the Sirius NA$CAR channel next year and it certainly ought to be the prime 4-7 p.m. timeslot.

Cheryl



Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: drpep (brian) on October 21, 2008, 02:29:03 AM
 Roadhouse is older country music. Don't know about the playlist compared to XM's version.
 I found this website www.dogstarradio.com. It lists everything Sirius has played today, yesterday, last week and beyond. Every song ,commercial, DJ break, talk radio segment, etc. If you want a taste of Sirius' music choices this is very interesting.  Also has news about Sirius/XM, including layoff talks.


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Cheryl on October 21, 2008, 02:01:54 PM
Thanks, Brian! 

Yeah, I like older country music, kind of like older NASCAR.   :laugh:  I know Roadhouse is suppose to be the equivalent of America, but being the curmudgeon that I am, I don't like change. 

I've been reading this forum for most of my information lately:

www.xmfan.com

As I've always said, personal preferences among the two services is pretty much like the old Ford/Chevy debate (or DirecTV vs. Dish, or satellite vs. cable, etc.).    ;)

Cheryl


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Desmond on October 21, 2008, 05:20:13 PM
I just read the Michiguide article, and I left heartbroken.  One of the fired DJs, Matt "the Cat" Baldassarri, had just gotten married! :'(


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: old hot rodder on October 22, 2008, 05:16:25 PM
Matt the cat is cool. I haven't been listening to XM much because my summer car has Sirius. I like XM's AMERICA too, Cheryl. One of the comments about the playlist could be correct, too, based upon my unscientific listening. Too bad that they have to mess with a good thing, and, it goes w/out saying, the opinions of those who SHOULD count, the consumers, are ignored. Seems like we have heard that tune before. :(


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Cheryl on October 22, 2008, 11:53:59 PM
Too bad that they have to mess with a good thing, and, it goes w/out saying, the opinions of those who SHOULD count, the consumers, are ignored.

Yeah, really, Dick and especially since XM had the much larger subscriber base, yet Sirius' programming is now probably going to be shoved down our throats.   >:(

Cheryl


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: old hot rodder on October 23, 2008, 06:25:10 PM
Yeah, but I still will NOT listen to Howard or Martha. So there! ;D


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Cheryl on October 23, 2008, 06:42:25 PM
I'm waiting to sign up for the so-called "Best of Sirius" until I see if they are putting Claire B. Lang on the NA$CAR channel or not. 

Cheryl


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: old hot rodder on October 23, 2008, 11:14:58 PM
Good idea. I like Claire.


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: drpep (brian) on November 13, 2008, 03:05:44 AM
 So have Sirius/XM subscribers weathered the changes made today? As a longtime Sirius subscriber I'm about 90% happy. I've read several forums and it's mostly XM subscribers who are unhappy. I will miss several channels that Sirius lost but I only listened to them for maybe 20 minutes a week. The jury is still out on the changeover of The Vault to Deep Tracks.


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Cheryl on November 13, 2008, 01:34:29 PM
Not very happy...

I still think it is quite interesting how the company with the much smaller customer base it forcing it's programming on the larger customer base.  Everything I read is that the playlists are much smaller on the Sirius channels.  And two of my favorite stations, 10 and 17 have been hacked up by Sirius.  Loud obnoxious DJs on both now, when 17 had none before and 10 had nice quiet, soothing voices and much older classic country.  Heard that 17 is switching from 80s and 90s country to all 90 to 2000...Ugh...It used to be a place to escape from Tim McGraw, Faith Hill, Shania, chesney and Rascal Flatts...

I heard my first Flatt Rascals song on there yesterday.   ::)

Cheryl


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: shawn on November 13, 2008, 04:45:06 PM
I'm mad that they took away buzzsaw and replaced it with the AC/DC Chanel.


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Desmond on November 13, 2008, 06:08:47 PM
Here's a list of replacement music channels resulting from the merger:
*Roadhouse replaces America (10)
*Prime Country replaces US Country (17)
*Outlaw Country instead of X Country
*The Highway instead of Highway 16 (16)
*Pop2K instead of XM Hitlist (30)
*The Pulse replaces Flight 26 (26)
*Sirius XM Love instead of The Heart
*Praise replaces Spirit
*Sirius XM U instead of XMU
*The Spectrum instead of XM Cafe
*Classic Vinyl replaces Top Tracks (34)
*Alt. Nation instead of Ethel
*Octane instead of Squizz
*Classic Rewind replaces Big Tracks
*Lithium instead of Lucy
*1st Wave instead of Fred
*Soul Town replaces Soul Street
*Heart and Soul instead of Suite 62
*Hip Hop Nation instead of The City

In addition, these channels have been terminated:
*Oprah and Friends
*The Rhyme
*Raw
*High Standards
*Fine Tuning
*Chrome
*VOX
*Aguila
*Caricia
*Viva
*The Virus

Let me know if there have been any other changes.


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: drpep (brian) on November 14, 2008, 02:02:49 AM
I'm mad that they took away buzzsaw and replaced it with the AC/DC Chanel.

  Buzzsaw, renamed Boneyard, comes back in early January.


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: drpep (brian) on November 14, 2008, 02:07:11 AM

 Everything I read is that the playlists are much smaller on the Sirius channels. 
Cheryl

  That's true, but I believe they are now using XM's library. During my usual daily listening routine, in the 24 hours after the change, I've heard songs that I've NEVER heard on Sirius and I've heard groups that Sirius has never played.
 


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: alfers on November 14, 2008, 04:15:31 AM
Hey there,
Just my two cents about Claire's demise.
Her status at the moment is that of a television show moved too many times, yes only three to date, and keeping her fan base in an every searching mode.  Were she on a television station we could search using our digital recorders for her time slot. 
Imagine my surprise Wednesday morning to find Blue Collar Comedy where I had heard Claire the evening before.  Yes, it served as a reminder only because I heard her the night before as to her next venue.  I never catch the majority of her show now as I only drive home 30 to 60 minutes of her last hour. 
Claire hinted the other day there was good news coming, AFTER this season is over.  I fear if it is a trip to Sirius on their NASCAR channel as I have three receivers now and am NOT in the market to replace them with Sirius.  After all, how many of those factory installed radios can we successfully replace?  Don't bother answering that, I'm not the least bit interested as it was rethorical.
As for the rest of the changes in show lineup and content, I use mine primarily to follow my favorite baseball team, hopefully seven months out of the year, and of course, Claire's show.  I use to listen to the blend on XM 25 as that music pretty much encases my listening pleasure.  I have fond memories of listening to Howard from some twenty years ago, hard to believe but he at least kept me awake on my very long drives across New England.  He was the rave then, not sure what his show is like now.  Again, I'm not the least bit interested in giving XM one more dime than I have to.  You may know HD radio is free.  The receivers are VERY pricey. 
I'll wander through XM's 7, 8 and 25 to see if I detect changes.  I do have the luxury of owning one of XM's little Pioneeer recorders.  Supposively even if you come in in the middle of a song it records the whole song.  I do have a few broken recordings but most of what I've recorded has remained entact.  I'll compare what I hear to what I have recorded and see if I notice a difference.  I too have heard the rumors XM's music stations were far superior to those of Sirius.  Yet another reason I never converted.
For race coverage I rely on my Raceview.  A delay of about 30 seconds but still better than some of those semi interested television networks showing the commercials that take breaks for race coverage.
I apologize if I've posted in an unacceptable manner.  I do tend to ramble. 



Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: old hot rodder on November 15, 2008, 06:40:01 PM
 HEY ALFERS, didn't you use to post on the old Mark Martin Roush board? How ya been?

  My wife is gonna be mad about Oprah being deleted. She like that show. I have been hearing stuff on XM lately that I never heard before. and I'm not happy about it. They better not mess with XM's channel 15, the Village. It is the only channel on either system which plays any decent folk music.  (now you know why I'm known as the "Old Hippie" on some boards. ;D ;D Seroiusly, folk music is great.
  I do miss the guys XM had on channels 5 and 10 especially.

Dick

 


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Cheryl on November 16, 2008, 06:43:13 PM
Welcome back, Michael!  Glad to have you back and appreciate you posting your thoughts on the merger.  As to Claire, I doubt seriously if she's going anywhere.  The fact they won't let her release the "news" about where she will be in the off-season or next year makes me believe, she'll still be available without having to pony up the money for the so-called "Best of Sirius."  It's supposedly only $4 more a month, but I've found that you have to pay $4 on each radio you own.  I'd probably only want it on two of mine; however, I've read on the XM fansite that even though I've paid for a 3-year contract on my SkyFi2 to keep the $9.99 rate, I'd have to shell out the difference to the "full price" and then add the $4 on that one - making my total increase $11 a month.  That is absurd IMHO, with what I pay already.  So, for now, I haven't sprung for it.  I'm going to wait and see what happens with the USAR series and if we plan to be travelling again next season, I'll probably get it in Feb for my SkiFi2 and then later for Lou's truck.

As to the music changes, I'm still not happy with all the changes to the country channels, but the classic rock ones and decades seem okay. 

Again, Michael, glad to have you back and don't be a stranger!

Cheryl


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Desmond on December 02, 2008, 06:00:15 PM
Before the merger, I had begun to listen occasionally to some of the music channels through DirecTV, which picks up the audio from XM.  Yesterday, I listened again and I noticed for the first time that the DJs talked between songs on the bluegrass and Willie's Place (traditional country) channels.  I had heard some DJ talk on the Bluesville channel, but not on the others. 

On one hand, this is what I suspected when Sirius took over the XM channels and began programming the music.  Then again, I don't listen to XM all day or even for more than an hour at a time, and I flipped from channel to channel.  So maybe there was some DJ talk anyway.  Even if there was, I think there is a lot more now, based on the reports I have heard on this thread and elsewhere.

Also, I listened to the southern gospel channel and it was playing a Christmas carol that not only did not mention Jesus Christ, but did not mention the word "Christmas!"  (For the record, it was "Let It Snow.")  I found that very ironic.

I also want to make a correction: Oprah and Friends is still on XM, and is also an optional add-on to Sirius.  But it is no longer available on DirecTV.


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Cheryl on December 02, 2008, 08:46:19 PM
So maybe there was some DJ talk anyway.  Even if there was, I think there is a lot more now, based on the reports I have heard on this thread and elsewhere.

Several of the channels I listened to had NO DJs before (Big Tracks, Top Tracks, and US Country).  Now their counterparts coming from Sirius (Classic Rewind, Classic Vinyl, and Prime County) have people talking all the time!  And they keep inserting stuff from current "entertainment" news, which is completely inappropriate on oldies channels IMHO...

There are different DJs on Roadhouse, which used to be America and they are much more intrusive than the ones from XM IMHO...

I signed up for Best of Sirius on Friday in order to continue to listen to Claire B. Lang and I've only listened in occasionally on the other talk shows on the NASCAR channel.  I find the hosts just want to interject their opinions, stir up trouble and half the time aren't even talking about racing.  Ugh!  Guess they've taken their lead from the folks on Fox and SPEED.   >:(  Claire actually gets off her butt and goes out and gets interviews and stories. 

Cheryl


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: drpep (brian) on December 04, 2008, 04:05:06 AM
half the time aren't even talking about racing.   folks . 
Cheryl

  After Sirius Speedway went to 4 hours, from three, and strictly NASCAR (used to cover ALL motorsports, MUCH better then) I welcome a little non NASCAR talk.
 I do like that the NASCAR channel has Eli Gold's show on Tuesday nights.


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Cheryl on December 04, 2008, 01:23:36 PM
As I suspected when Sirius started these multi-hour talk shows, they don't have enough material to fill a show that long.  Why not go back to using syndicated shows like "Fast Talk" etc. more?  Or the wonderful "classic" MRN races that XM used to use during the down times? 

Besides I don't know how anyone can listen to David Poole or Dave Moody for more than a couple minutes.   ::) 

Cheryl



Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: old hot rodder on December 11, 2008, 04:05:18 PM
As I suspected when Sirius started these multi-hour talk shows, they don't have enough material to fill a show that long.  Why not go back to using syndicated shows like "Fast Talk" etc. more?  Or the wonderful "classic" MRN races that XM used to use during the down times? 

Besides I don't know how anyone can listen to David Poole or Dave Moody for more than a couple minutes.   ::) 

Cheryl



Amen to that, Cheryl. I really dislike the "D/Js" who think they have to yak all the time. If I wanted to listen to local radio, I certainly could do so for free,.... >:(


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Desmond on December 11, 2008, 06:02:02 PM
Amen to that, Cheryl. I really dislike the "D/Js" who think they have to yak all the time. If I wanted to listen to local radio, I certainly could do so for free,.... >:(

That reminds me.  The current CEO of Sirius XM Radio, Mel Karmazin, had the same job at CBS Radio for years.  It was there that he signed Howard Stern.  When Stern chose to leave CBS after a management change at CBS, Karmazin quickly signed Stern to a contract at Sirius.

So that's your explanation as to why the music channels now sound like "regular" radio stations. :(


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: old hot rodder on December 11, 2008, 06:16:11 PM
Good point, Desmond. All I'm looking for right now is a good reason to reduce the subscriber list by 2,.. >:(


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Cheryl on December 11, 2008, 07:23:47 PM
From what I read in an article quoting Mel last week, he doesn't care about music at all.  He's all about the money.  Now who does that sound like that race fans are familiar with??   ::)

What a sad attitude...

Cheryl


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: alfers on February 11, 2009, 03:24:02 AM
We see where Claire ended up.  I haven't heard her show since she left for Sirius.
As for NASCAR on XM, looks like 148 will be doing two shows a week on NASCAR.  They are suppose to be in Daytona this week on Saturday and sometime on Sunday.  If I get a better handle on the times, I'll pass them along.


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: Cheryl on February 11, 2009, 01:10:45 PM
We see where Claire ended up.  I haven't heard her show since she left for Sirius.

I signed up for the "Best of Sirius" just to hear Claire, but 7 pm only three nights a week really stinks.  And not Mon or Tues right after the races, so a lot of stuff is old news by the time she's on starting on Wednesdays. 
The programming people have no idea how many listeners they've lost by such a stupid move!

Also, there have been media reports that Charlie Ergen of DISH network is buying up all of SXM's debt in a possible takeover. 

Cheryl


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: alfers on February 11, 2009, 04:17:09 PM
Cheryl,
Shows you I haven't heard Claire since her move.  Never knew she only had three nights a week.  She was really laying it on thick before the move about how wonderful it was going to be.
Guess we'll stand by to stand by.


Title: Re: Sirius/XM merger update
Post by: alfers on February 11, 2009, 08:42:13 PM
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